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Chris -Hello today is 1
2/9/18 2 * 805 location at VMI and participant is Cadet Lindsay I like to thank you for agreeing to sit down with me for an interview I truly appreciate you answering my questions best you can and again don’t feel any pressure so simple it’s offering his class so where did you grow up with in the Appalachia.
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Chris -Now what part of Virginia is at is it like Northeast.
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Lindsey-It’s near the I’m trying to make it relevant.
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lindsey-it is actually at like right on the border of West Virginia and Virginia.
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Chris-Do you identify yourself as Appalachian if so why or why not.
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lindsey-Yeah dude identify myself as Appalachian because I live in apple.
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Like basically exactly like you didn’t like.
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Lindsey -So if you like research it are at will basically because of the accent the culture that values the ethics cuz we’re conservatives we have The Shakespearean accident cuz apparently it like transcribes all the way back to Shakespeare had our accident which I think is cool so bascially moonshine. Very rural
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So you do identify yourself as Appalachian what would you describe the aspects of the region? so like I said we’re really conservative you don’t really feel all the rules so like politically were conservative.
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Lindsey-So like what we do for fun like in that we don’t really have that much so like basically instead of like in the cities and stuff you have a lot to do you know the clubs or whatever we don’t have that literally all we do is well we found stuff to do like cow tipping isn’t really a thing but like.
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Lindsey-We just go out I mean.
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lindsey-Sly kids our age can I okay the kids in the City compared to us so if we go out to a football game we think that’s like hot shit I’m trying to think of other things that are proof.
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lindsey-So basically.
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lindsey-So it relates a lot like Tennessee you like tennessee-kentucky we all pretty much have the same like culture is just like polite like you said yes or no so tell me when you see kina here like at vmi
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lindsey-I don’t really.
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Lindsey -I mean obviously there’s a lot of farming a lot of that’s actually it’s like for our concentrations in high school. So we had Agriculture and saying like there’s this huge thing that everybody loves to go to we have this thing called FFA week and it was under agriculture the concentration of Agriculture and we would have had those who have done tractor driving contest and everybody who took agriculture were like it was like a state thing like you were required to participate in tractor driving it was actually pretty fun a hay bale like a hundred or whatever the fastest and then we had pigs running around in our in our school is like a mud like I don’t know it was just like it’s exactly what you think it was.
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Like in engineering we actually have really like mechanics really all there is to do all there is to work there’s not that much to do so that’s why a lot of people have to move away the only thing there is what we have the Greenbrier which is a five-star hotel but that’s just because Jim Justice says that he’s the governor of West Virginia now but he used to be like he’s at the Greenbrier which is a five-star hotel. chris-so is he is he originally from the region? Lindsey-used to be a college is called like I think it’s just called like the military at The Greenbrier Military Academy or something and he went there and then like he coach basketball at he was always a billionaire like he was always rich and he and The Greenbrier he’s owned the greenbrier for alot of years.
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Lindsey-Actually I don’t know how many years do you like 12 years or something but but but he pulls in a bunch of immigrants to work there so there’s only not any jobs there restaurants like way you’re like waitressing whenever mechanics farming and like teaching and that’s it and like like my dad he works at the paper mill in Covington that’s like we had a job like 45 minutes to work everyday cuz there’s nothing to do where we’re from that he specializes in. chris-so there isnt like any Workforce or jobs in like that little area in our whole County it like our County split up into West it will is Greenbrier County instead of the Eastern side is hungry Mary’s in the west side is called Greenbrier West but we say call Wes and.
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Why people yeah those are the only two high schools in the whole County slave to high schools.
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chris-I mean there is more kids in my high school than VMI
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Linndsey -Actually I think my high school it had maybe a 1000 people in it like all together which is pretty freaking small.
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chris-Can you tell if someone from is from Appalachia or is not from the region if so how do you know like what.
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Lindsey -Absoultley you can tell so say you’re at a restaurant and like one of the waiters like they asked you what to drink or whatever and it is basically politeness is there a polite like oh hey do you want a refill novel of all then you know that they’re from there but it’s it’s just like if you’re walking around and you’re not greeted if they don’t greet you if they’re not like all good afternoon.
Part 2 41 min
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Lindsey -Okay so basically if somebody if you see somebody walking past you and they don’t greet you you know they’re not from there and like they wear to like a lot of us like it’s so serious if we wear plaid we were Muck Boots we wear workout clothes we wear very unfashionable I mean now there’s some people that like me what you see in the city to it Chris-I mean there’s a lot of people you know if not from Appalachian that have zero fashion.
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Lindsey-We wear a lot of like most of the people like they just get off of work or whatever so like. I don’t know how to describe it I mean it’s not like completely like oh like we don’t have teeth we walk around Barefoot like it’s not exactly like that but like.
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Lindsey -I don’t know if you can just tell it if they’re wearing heels you know they’re not from their also to ask a big indicator.
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Lindsey-Their syntax like along with accent their syntax so like if somebody was to act like my dad’s wolf a lot of people in our area still talk with really bad grammar it’s like if if you were to say I went to the store to get milk and somebody and then I saw somebody that I knew my dad like he would related as like yeah we was walking through the store to get some milk and I saw one of my old buddies and then like they say was instead of were like just really it’s really annoying but it’s just the way they are and so like a lot of people like my age still talk like that and it’s.
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Lindsey -It’s so obnoxious but I see I like their syntax the way they say things in like like there’s a there’s a lot of examples around too like.
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Lindsey-Say I’m trying to think of relevant.
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Chris -No you’re fine I mean take your time
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lindsey-Oh okay so if it’s pouring like if it’s raining really hard we we put like a preposition in front of everything so I can we say duh in from everything so like a lot of old people in like a lot of people my age like if they’re going to I’m going to the Dairy Queen and if it’s raining really hard outside everyone says it’s pouring the rain cuz like my Zoe she’s from Chicago and she makes fun of me all the time everyone makes fun of me all the time I’ll be like oh it’s pouring the rain is pouring rain and it’s so weird to hear people say it’s pouring but just like little things like that like just their syntax their accent the way they dress the way they carry themselves if they’re like snobby and arrgant every but every place has people but like it or not bragging about how many cattle they herded how many like if their not bragging about
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Lindsey-Pretty much anything agricultural-related then they’re probably not from their most people like is actually really sad because like I’m glad that I got away just away from that place because I didn’t realize how like they are closed off and how close is close-minded that is a another indicator everyone there is close-minded they don’t like they hate the Liberals they hate the little so much and so like they’re not open to any new ideas or any new ways in order to accomplish a task they’re just they will not listen to any new like way of doing something and like they’re set in their ways they’re not going to listen to you.
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Lindsey -Even if they need help like they’re not going to like even if there’s a better way to a better more efficient way to do something they’re not going to do it so close-minded in the another sense that like so like they grew up there and most I mean it’s not really there is a high level of poverty there but it’s actually it’s pretty bad compared to hear like even though I sin is pretty bad and it’s like most of the time like they’re just they’re just working till like live cuz there’s not that much to do anyways and it’s nothing even if there is stuff to do there that you specialize in it’s not going to pay that much so like my dad like for example he.
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So he.
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Lindsey -What did he do he literally live with his parents until he was Thirty I know that for a fact. Kroger he was crazy so like he was a professional dirt bike racer or whatever the hell it’s called and which I think is pretty badass but like he had to quit first of all because he broke his collarbone but also because he had to help paying his parents to help pay the bills for his parents and like most of the people that live there now like even I have a lot of friends I didn’t get a college and they’re like dirt is working just like 2 to pay the bills and basically just making end meet like like they don’t know anything other than working in order to eat in like
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Lindsey -Basically just survive so like they don’t really I’m just glad I got away because they like they don’t know that there’s better ways of living and they don’t know they don’t value education is what it is in like they don’t understand that you can actually like make a life for yourself and don’t have to live in that like they’re all just likes it’s like such a depressing mood to depressed cuz they think that there’s like no way out of like a big part of the culture there is like very close-minded set in their ways old fashioned just like. Chris- so why do you think education is not valued upon like you know the region of Appalachian like I don’t want to send you a thing okay well I don’t that reason Lindsey-I think the reason they don’t Value education it ties into very like first of all
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Lindsey -drugs-So drugs it ties into drugs in a way because drugs are so bad people get hooked on the drugs so easily and a lot of people that had to like their kids like the child protection services or whatever they had to take her kids away from them and stuff actually my brother’s girlfriend works for CPS and so like.
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Lindsey- We also have like a lot of like orphanages is like really but I mean when your question because it’s really hard to answer that drugs have a lot of there’s a lot of drugs my brother is the Sheriff Deputy for like 3 years in our county. So they dont value education because they get distracted well first of all because like I said before because they’re just trying to make ends me and they’re not worried about their chemistry test or like learning about like the visit physics are like in the history of the region or anything like that they’re not worried about that they’re worried about like getting food on the table basically or like there’s also like a lot of like domestic violence.
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lindsey-High percentage of domestic violence it’s like most kids they’re not worried about school they’re just worried about like not getting hit by parents.
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lindsey-Not getting like yeah just like even like emotionally like what’s word.
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lindsey-Emotionally.
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lindsey-Abused by like their parents and Stuff like.
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lindsey-I think it just has a lot to do with.
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lindsey-Just know that everything everything their close-mindedness that’s why they don’t value education cuz they don’t realize how important it is because they think that there’s only one way of doing like just the way they’re set in their ways that affects why they like that affects why they don’t got no education I think also because they don’t know anything other than what their living and they don’t know.
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lindsey-I honestly there’s so many things that affect that like and some people just don’t care like cuz it like.
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lindsey-You tend to do what like runs in your family misses a time when it comes to it like picking careers and stuff cuz like I don’t know it’s just that’s a common Trend where I’m from like oh my daddy was he was the mechanic over in Ronceverte just like my dad actually good example my granddady was sherrif for Greenbrier County for like 20 some years and that’s what caused my brother to become a police officer. chris- in what role does family play in your life? lindsey- if you have you ever seen breaking omish If you deny your family in any way.
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lindsey-They will just like ya basic if you go off like my aunt she went off to California she like a big ass she majored in dance San Francisco she’s the one she like in West Virginia and so like my dad he’s extremely conservatives like assholes on the family my mom is from her dad is from.
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Philadelphia and then her mom was from Richmond and then she grew up in Richmond so she’s not in like family like also in our sense though there’s a lot like all of my friends parents are divorced like this also like proves like none of us care cuz we’re so used to it cuz it’s such a common thing that like it doesn’t even faze us like we’re just like oh okay well I get two Christmas.
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Lindsey- Nevermind I can’t say that I’ll tell you later but in my chris- life you know cuz I grow up you know from a from a poor area I mean I lose my in the city I live in the town I live in the country I mean you can sit awhile live in the city but I mean you know my father died when I was what 9 years old are you really I’m so sorry it’s like. lindsey- I guess that also I don’t know it just leads to a bunch of things like family like if your family is together it’s really strong like it’s really strong relationship but I also like if it’s a broken home then that leaves like nine times out of ten the like it’s going to lead to drugs it’s going to lead to like just a bunch of bad stuff.
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Yeah just a bunch of really bad stuff but yeah like it’s not a good place that I don’t want Mike it like it’s the type of place I hate to say it but now that i a travel like a New Orleans San Francisco you know like Florida basically in the past like I don’t even like six months it’s open my eyes to like I don’t if I had a kid I would not want them to grow up where I’m from the whole place is just depressing like everyone knows everyone’s business and like it’s just like a bunch of petty drama that like people immerse themselves in that’s not even like important like I was important is like helping people out.
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lindsey-It’s not like.
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lindsey-Putting people down and suck cuz you’re jealous because your Aunt Martha didn’t make the best apple pie at Thanksgiving dinner or something cuz they literally get mad over stupid stuff like that it’s funny it’s actually hilarious.
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Lindsey- Like I consider it a blessing to like know I still love that place like the good things about it is like I mean you’re tight like we were taught we were raised right like we were raised Christian we were raised to always help people out don’t like if you don’t have anything good to say don’t say anything. Like we were we were raised with like values in like ethics and stuff like it’s not like it’s completely like you know like completely like depressing and stuff but it’s just I don’t know but like personally like I have like a I guess it just depends would like what type of person you are because I like to travel and I always have to be up doing things I can’t like sit around I like I like like danger and stuff so like that’s why I hate that place but like it’s not.
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lindsey-Actually no it’s not a good place. I’m just going to. chris-Growing Up how do you remember Appalachian being betrayed in the media and popular culture? lindsey-so they’re actually brings up a good point because whenever I was growing up like we didn’t even read it like we’re always outside playing and stuff and like even like middle school high school or whatever like we were distracted we didn’t even like it goes back to like them not value education and stuff like old people would read new Peyton newspapers and stuff but it’s not like they would tell anyone anything like that they learn so and it’s like most kids they don’t even realize that that live in Appalachia.
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Lindsey- Even realize like that there that all of them like they they think that all of America is like them they’re completely ignorant that there is a complete there’s a set of people with opposite values that like I grew up and I didn’t even know how I was portrayed because I was ignorant and thinking that everyone was like me that everyone was polite everyone like you know basically was just raised up like me like feel like that’s how it is today to like they don’t realize how they’re barely know how they’re portrayed because they’re in the way that they don’t even they just think that everyone is the same that like they’re not educated.
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chris-I mean you can say even today that you know even in rule City areas at education is not important to.
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Is there any particular way that you or your family or friends up a pair of food like is there a certain kind of foods that you associate with? I mean sweet tea , thing you know what did Ice-T and they can’t Arizona. That’s the worst tea I know it has to be sweet tea okay. Chris- Do yall brue tea? lindsey-so it just depends if we feel like it my Aunt Bruce tea.
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Lindsey- But like if you ask for teea are going to give you sweet tee it’s like it’s literally it’s I mean it’s not like the Deep South like we’re yeah I’m from cuz my aunt and uncle like I said they were from California they come in the ask for Ice-T they get pissed off so we always have a salad always have to like Mom she always makes like this is just an example of what you would make sure she would make pasta salad Whole pork broccoli and like like you eat good brussel sprout.
• 20:18 – 21:14
Lindsey- She just makes a bunch of stuff yeah corn bread rolls apple pie apple pie we say pie and I feel like you don’t know when we say get on the line line people say get on the line is that we like we like long vowels and stuff like we just have pie dye sky
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lindsey-With hot apple pie with vanilla ice cream.
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lindsey-I’m a really big fan of cake but my mom loves cake so like always had a cake pepperoni rolls for some reason.
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lindsey-We don’t really I mean we drink water and stuff we love mac and cheese we bake it like.
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lindsey-We make everything homemade biscuits from scratch, just like the restaurants and stuff like the Mexican restaurants and like Italian Restaurant Del Sol there’s a bunch of places it’s like him homemade.
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Pretty cool we have really shity Pizza though.
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Do you like pizza? lindsey-I like pizza and it pisses me off.
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Lindsey- The food is good it’s really like feeling like it’s basically carbs but is really feeling but like it doesn’t have flavor to me it doesn’t because like have my other side of the family is like Indian like from India sleep is very bland bill I can just like in the in the area like it in general is just like basically like the basic like American food but it’s not like it’s not like rich in flavor or anyting.
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lindsey-I mean you probably didn’t I just wanted to complain about it cuz I can’t stand on your opinion on everything. chris-What you consider to be respectful in your community? would you consider to be disrespectful in your community?
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lindsey-I guess I mean in this sentence like a respectful help you always help people who need it out.
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lindsey-You even is like you always ask people how they’re doing that’s just like a common like if you don’t miss you respectable hard work that hard work. That’s another positive thing that like I was that I was raised on like my parents culture I didn’t even hit is like most of my friend like sorry this is like not like we work for our money like our parents don’t give us money like we work for everything and that’s like if you work it if you’d like if people see that you’re actually attend things like make something of yourself even though it’s really hard to in that region they are definitions of making something of yourself.
• 25:08 – 25:50
Lindsey- Like the communication act like teacher something dr. Deborah where you go to Medical but so yeah like if you work hard if you’re like nice to everyone if you actually care about how people are doing that’s respectable disrespectful is like oh I don’t really give a shit about anything anyone anybody but myself all I care about in the alot people are on drugs feel like that’s disrespectful was like oh I like.
• 25:51 – 26:35
Lindsey- Most of them slake I know a lot of people they so like a bunch of people divorce and said they had fights over their kids like yeah and it’s like there’s this one guy and he was on he was hooked on coke which a lot of people are hooked on coke they’re like it’s just like really, so he was and he went to court to get child support like money for child support because he wasn’t even paying his wife was or his ex-wife was paying it and he was using it for like drugs and stuff so like that’s disrespectful and it happens all the time I mean basically I don’t know basically if you’re not one of them.
• 26:38 – 26:44
Lindsey- I don’t really know how to explain it there’s also a lot of judgy people it’s like no matter what you do.
• 26:50 – 27:03
Chris -What would you think is a common misconception about Appalachian people do you know that you know the world you know seeing I know is you see any movies or just misconception? lindsey-I believe.
• 27:07 – 27:59
Lindsey- You know what I really thought about it a lot of people as Appalachia as a whole people think that they’re all dumb which they’re not like they’re not all there’s actually like one of my friends from high school Louise got an internship at Nasa I mean I’m trying to get an internship in NASA like several people literally for people from my I lived it like we moved around a lot in West Virginia and said I used to live in another County called Summers County but in that counting by twos and went to West Point one of them went to the Naval Academy.
• 28:00 – 28:28
Lindsey- The majority of the people don’t really vale your education because they’re ignorant but like there’s also like the rare few that like make it big I guess it’s like I don’t know if that’s the biggest misconception because everything else I mean people have it on point I’m not going to lie like no Teeth actually that’s probably the biggest thing we are not cannaballs incist does happen shit is nasty..
• 28:44 – 28:52
lindsey-So I guess just like people aren’t as dumb as they’re related I guess and.
• 28:54 – 28:58
Lindsey- Honestly that’s literally the only thing I could think of.
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Chris -What would you want what what do you want young people to know about Appalachian people and their culture? Lindsey- all the good thing about the culture and stuff like you’ll always have a place to go back to you I guess it’s really like people take care of you like even if you’re not their family like if they see that you’re struggling like your neighbors will come in like pretty much like take care of you need if you need any help.
• 29:33 – 30:24
Lindsey- Churches and stuff that’s a big thing churches help out people all the time like for example my one of my neighbors she had a stroke or something like that actually was like a couple months ago she had a stroke in like she was the only fairly young to she was like it was like a crazy like he asked if she was only one that can provide for a family and so like our whole like I live in a subdivision is called Taunton Circle and my mom is this secretary like you know how every like hoi or whatever you have to have like a vice president secretary president in the meeting until like the daily take care of it like.
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It’s not like I don’t know Appalachia it is not as.
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Like.
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Bad as everybody else unless you’re like me like I think I’m just as bad as on actually it’s probably just cuz I grew up there in like I have a lot of like deep-rooted like I don’t know like I just want to get away from home but yeah it’s not as bad as everybody like to be I guess I don’t know.
• 31:08 – 31:15
Chris-Bring me to my last three questions why do you think that people or.
• 31:17 – 31:24
Chris -Why do you think people have like this this pre pre-ordained idea of Apalachee thing is.
• 31:29 – 31:42
lindsey-I mean that she’s like I don’t want anything but Hollywood’s really has the music industry everything in Hollywood pretty much like.
• 31:43 – 32:11
lindsey-Play Ariana Grande Grey’s Anatomy like stuff like that like they have a really grasp like the the attention of young people today in this world are in this country at least and like I don’t know they just like believe everything that there that’s been like to spit it out and then like there’s a it’s definitely like the media definitely.
• 32:12 – 32:53
Chris -How do you feel about like being Appalachian are you are you proud are you like excited or happy to say that you know I’m from that region ? lindsey-I said like I’m not going to post about everything like I’m not going to act like like I’m actually do but I’m not going to conversation with a bunch of our room with a bunch of people from the city like Zoe’s Room Chicago pages from she like like if I had a conversation with him I wouldn’t act like.
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lindsey-I don’t know I wouldn’t act like I was like.
• 32:58 – 33:43
lindsey-Better than they are. Like I wouldn’t be close-minded to anything that they would say cuz like that’s another thing that, all the cities they called City Slickers or whatever so I call the City Slickers don’t listen to anything I have to say they’re a bunch of freaking dumbass liberals stuff like that like I wouldn’t be like that I wouldn’t like bost about anything and I wouldn’t like it if they were talking about what they did just like telling stories about like what they did in high school I wouldn’t like try to like overcome what they did with shit that I did that I think is more like alcohol poisoning from too much moonshine just like a bunch of country as shit like I wouldn’t like I wouldn’t try to like.
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lindsey-What’s the word just like.
• 33:47 – 33:57
lindsey-Try to seem like I’m better than them in a way and I wouldn’t I’m proud of it but I’m not going to like most about it is they still I’m trying to say.
• 33:58 – 34:02
chris-I might have two more questions I have.
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chris-Have you or like any of your family I got into the Moonshine business?
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lindsey-Oh my gosh okay.
• 34:14 – 35:13
lindsey-Well 3 members s in my family one of them absolutely story my great grandpa got arrested cuz he had a moonshine still in his basement and he got caught and it was undercover agent by Moonshine that’s like busted him and so he went to jail for 3 years I think and so he had my great grandma keep the business going while he was in jail she got arrested cuz they found out that she was doing it so that my grandpa and I he moved all the shit we in like five Farms it’s like he moved it to one of the farms in BFE I mean they’re all but the one most NBA.
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Chris -What is BFE.
• 35:17 – 35:18
lindsey-Bumfuk Egypt.
• 35:27 – 35:51
Lindsey- Yes it we haven’t ya my okay so my dad like after that like my grandpa he he quit doing it and went once he became the sheriff he quit like with the Moonshine business but then my dad he didn’t do any he didn’t deal with that either but another member of my family.
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Nose on me so I guess I’ll just bring me to my last question.
• 36:08 – 37:04
chris-Dealing with race and ethnicity like in the region on it would you say that is primarily like Caucasian descent or is it like you no more? lindsey- than 99.9% is Caucasian my grandpa I’ll tell you okay this is this was this summer we were in Tennessee because my my family on my dad’s side is a bunch of hicks that they go to freaking Pigeon Forge you know where that is in Tennessee okay we’ll look it up Pigeon Forge Tennessee if they still have you heard of Dollywood it’s literally saved other than think it’s the Greatest Hit Ever it’s literally they go to a place on vacation that is exactly like where they live cuz that’s how close-minded they are some ways it just pisses me off and then there are these people or anything like there’s country but I mean.
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Lindsey- So we were at Cabela’s cuz that’s like a thing like we always go to Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shops like my grandpa he would me and my grandpa and my aunt were sitting on the bench and a black dude walks by and he literally said they’re racist they are racist as fuck as like my das side of family is racist and it pisses me off my grandpa is because he literally a black guy of black guy I walked by and he said do you smell that that smells like the n-word I’m not going to I’m not going to ever say that word is that what this is me off but and I was like wtf
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lindsey-Oh my God that’s how most people are like ever that like they’re racist cuz that’s the way they were raised so like yeah and like my aunt lives in Birmingham Alabama and she likes says they’re still set like the schools are still segregated so she brings a lot of the culture back to racism and stuff so I guess that’s still a thing it’s ridiculous and like there’s a cake it actually there’s a KKK literally 20 miles from where we live there’s a culture really pagan I mean there’s a bunch of like like there’s a bunch of Lake Baptist Baptist and Pentecostal but there’s also like we really have is like Christian the other half is like pagen in witchcraft like we have a Wiccan Society my aunt Maude’s neighbors awakened one one day actually at midnight.
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Lindsey- Midnight like the witching hour or whatever she literally she she saw a bonfire in her in her neighbor’s backyard so she’s like having a party she walks out there literally sacrificing her dog they killed her dog for like a sacrifice for one of the Satanic rituals that they do and yeah so there’s a Wiccan Society a KKK National Alliance I don’t know if you know what that isn’t National line I can look it up National Alliance and like capital in and then capital A National Alliance so we can Society KKK National Alliance and there used to be a Neo-Nazi what they were called it wasn’t exactly what they called themselves.
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lindsey-But yeah oh yeah and it was basically like there’s another like they’re just a bunch of crazy organizations actually I’m pretty sure the National Alliance it originated in West Virginia.
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Lindsey- But yeah we have a bunch of crazy-ass freaking sit there and like it’s still pretty racist and it’s still like even if like it’s racist but it’s also like really low-key and a way to that I guess that’s how my dad is like if he is not going to like be rude or anything but then like afterwards you can say old he’s black like they always they always have a comment on people’s fucking race
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Ridiculous it’s still like that at least we’re all wrong.
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Chris -Again I think I got everything I want to know thank you for your time and again thank you for sitting down with me.
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Chris -This class I really enjoyed and I appreciate you being a participant.