Reflective writing

Hello,

In regards to rhetoric and the history of rhetoric I learned that the question of “what is rhetoric” is very difficult to answer, or cannot be answered at all. That being said, I feel like I have a much, much, better understanding of what rhetoric is, and how to effectively use it to form an argument. Studying the past and historical writings greatly enhanced this as well.

For the exam, I learned that simply exposing myself to the material, and writing down as much as I can on the study guide is what works best for me. Similarly, I learned that one does not have to stress to much about being perfect when writing on a test. That the teacher knows you don’t have resources available, and that you are working off your brain. This is a bit of a stress reliever.

For the paper, I learned that I need to allow myself more time forĀ finalĀ edits. I had the paper done in a timely manner, but went to the writing center the day before, and had things to fix that I just did not have time to do. Furthermore, I have realized that I have a ton of ideas, and sometimes when I write something, I am insecure that my audience knows what I am saying. Because of this, I over emphasis sometimes, and can be repetitive.

For the class, I think what is most helpful and effective are the class lectures. The readings are very dense, and when reading them before class I usually miss what is intended to be learned from them. However, after class I have a much better understanding of the material, and when I go back to the reading, I get much more out of it. So, bottom line, the lectures help me personally the most.

Test Prep

Two Key words

epistime: subject knowledge

Techne: the “art,” or capability of knowing how to do something.

Plato: Well known Dialectic who challenged sophists. Feared the slipperyness of words and the corruption of ones soul through the use of rhetoric. Believes sophist have no epistime about what they are talking about.

Aristotle: Former Plato student, believes that there is epistime in the art of rhetoric. That one must have knowledge of pisteis in order to be successful.

 

Question: Compare and contrast Plato and Aristotle’s belief by laying out the basic framework of their beliefs on rhetoric. Then, choose a side and defend it with a well supported thesis that draws from readings and class notes or debate.

P.Soc in Phaedrus

Hello,

I think to a very small extent P.Soc actually does start to accept rhetoric and its benefits to mainly education, but society as well. It is hard to discern in the text, but multiple times he refers to sophists, not by name however, as remarkable and capable people. He also is much more accepting of Phaedrus’ arguments than that of Gorgias, who he just seems to bully.

However, I believe that he is still very reserved about rhetoric, and quite skeptical. For example, pages 506-507 P.Soc really delves into the danger of sophists and public rhetoric. He truly seems to fear the idea of a uneducated and unqualified person, who can win an argument through deception however, mis leading the public.

I believe he liked rhetoric’s contribution to education, but despises its ability to easily hide the truth of an argument and subject matter.

 

Edit to add: The biggest difference comes on page 517 when Plato points out that unlike before, he no longer believes that rhetoric, which he saw as deceptive towards a soul, could now possibly affect the soul in a positive way, but the soul must be known by the rhetorician. Rhetorician is the study of the soul now.